Showing posts with label critiques. Show all posts
Showing posts with label critiques. Show all posts

Thursday, August 19, 2010

Battle of the Betas!

Well, I think that blog title may just be teensy bit misleading. It's just ... look at this:
At this point you're probably wondering what I'm even talking about. Well, a few days ago a call went out, or, should I say, a tweet went out from @Kate_Hart...

How do you beta? Anyone else want to participate in a blog activity w/ me, @ImSarahEnni& @kathleenpeacock?

So now where does that leave us? Well, as part of this little blog activity, we're gonna take a look at how differently everyone's beta style is on the same piece of work. Thanks so much to Sarahfor being brave enough to volunteer her first page for all of us to crit!

This is really something to keep in mind when you're out there looking for crit partners and beta readers. From those of us participating in this little blog experiment, you'll see just how differently our styles are in critting. And because Blogger and Word don't seem to want to talk to each other ... I've had to tweak with how to show my crits:

If Hana Larkhill had her way, her father’s body would be in a sailboat, rope and a flute in his hands, and she would watch him embark one last time toward the unknown at the eternal curve of the earth. [Wow, holy long first sentence… Sugg: cutting it into two?] Instead James Larkhill lay in a sterile metal box at Faraday’s Funeral Home. Someone who did it for a living had caked his face with makeup. [This sentence read awkwardly to me. While it makes sense, it doesn’t flow well as well as it could into the next line. Sugg: combining this with next sentence and determining what is really important to keep.] His delicate freckles were powdered out of existence. An old blue suit bound his body; even the strawberry gold of his curls had faded.

Hana’s mother, Noa Larkhill, hasn’t fought these depressing conventions. But she had insisted on an open casket. James’ [OK, so should this be “James’s?” I’ve seen it both ways showing ownership, but I believe it should be ‘s for singular and s’ for plurals] face and shoulders were in tact and the suit covered his abdomen. But Hana felt the looming specter [while I really like “looming specter,” it makes sentence read a little flower, imo] of his ruined lower body, smashed into irreparable pieces by an anonymous fender. [great visual in this sentence!]

Faraday’s was cold, clean and modern—everything was black or stainless steel. Everything had razor-sharp edges. It was the kind of place that gave Hana the feeling she was being blown through by unseen drafts [LOVE this! Spooky J]. She longed for home. For his family, James had provided [This phrasing takes me out of the moment. If Hana is the narrator, why doesn’t she just talk about the house? All the details given afterwards I really like, but this beginning is distracting. Not sure if this is supposed to be 3rd party omniscient?] a house with a door that shrunk up in the winter and bloated until it wedged in the door frame in the summer, a house with stairs that had predictable creaks and groans, a house that moved around them like a familiar friend.

James’ death three days earlier had crushed Hana underneath deep, prolonged silence. Her mother, whose loudest expression to this point had always been in the strength of her brush strokes on canvas, rocked and wailed.[I’m totally confused by this line. How did her dad’s death crush her under deep silence if her mother was wailing? Was Hana the one completely silent? Or the atmosphere? Does that make sense?] Hana felt like a ghost, alone and unseen [really like this, visual and descriptive! Nice!!], holding her mother’s tiny shaking limbs [is she holding just her mother’s limbs or her mother’s whole body? Sometimes phrasing can be taken too literally and then it just sounds weird. Just saying.] in a room full of people that, at least today, felt like strangers.

Firstly, thanks so much for sharing your work with us, Sarah! I hope you find my feedback useful. Overall, I really like where the story’s going and am definitely interested in the spooky elements that are so clearly hinting at what’s to come! Great job!


Keep in mind, this is just one page of a manuscript, so there may be things out of context and what not. Hopefully, if you're out there looking for a beta/crit partner, this will help remind you that everyone crits a little differently and no matter what, everyone's experience and styles are a bit different. :)

Take a look at these other beta perspectives on Sarah's manuscript page:

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Calls, Cupcakes and Critterbug

No, not that kind of call. Yesterday I made the mistake of saying my vacation was officially beginning. Two hours later I got an urgent text from one of the guys I work with saying there was a problem. Yeah, so vacation on hold until I can get this issue taken care of. Suck for me.

But the kidlets are off to a Christmas party today with their Secret Santa gifts in tow and a whole box of treats:


Yep, we made those in lieu of the planned trip to the zoo, seeing as there was a freaking blizzard here!!

But hey, it's the winter. Snow is to be expected, even when it is inconvenient.

And now I've decided I am finishing up all my past due crits before I am allowed to start working on anything else. So I have been scouring the house for my critter hat and should be all caught up before Christmas. Hooray!

Then on to revisions and new words!

UPDATE: Still behind on Crits. Working on it! I swear!! The couple extra days I ended up working totally threw my schedule for a loop. had to rejig timeline. Done before 2010 arrives!

Thursday, June 18, 2009

Thursday Thought: A 2nd (or 3rd, 4th, 5th...) Opinion

I've spent some time over the last few months trying get more involved with the online writing community. De-lurk, as it were. I no longer just read blogs, tweets and forums, I comment, rally and conversate. My "circle o' writing peeps" I know has grown and I am grateful for that, though I've found my one lacking point.

This is where I am reaching out to you out there for suggestions / direction, whatever that may be.

I don't even know where to start beyond asking you guys for help. I'm looking for crit buddies/beta readers. I know there are a lot of websites out there and I've been poking around and trying to see if there is anything that looks worth trying out. (Have signed up for Critique Circle, etc.)

So how did you guys end up in your crit groups? With your crit buddies? Any advice?

Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Wednesday Wondering

Today's thoughts? All about critiques.

I had an epiphany yesterday. It stemmed from a critique I received.

Now, many people will say that close friends (and family) will not usually give you full-out honest feedback. Uh-uh. Not J. She is very good with the red pen. In addition to that, she usually gives me thorough and thoughtful suggestions overall. So now she has me going in for round umpteenth of revisions on my current wip (henceforth known as JM). Thanks for the feedback, J!

So this leads into the other thing I've been thinking about: Well, I feel a bit new to this whole 'net writer's universe and when I initially started blogging (June 2008), I wasn't very good at it. I would forget. I got too wrapped up in my writing and I guess that's a good thing, but I didn't realize the universe that was out there. Now that I've succumbed to this alternate universe, though I still find it completely overwhelming with information, I have found some great advice from other writers, published and not, agents and publishers.

My wondering, you ask? Critique groups are a close knit bunch and finding one to participate in can be tough. From some of my reaching out, I've found that most groups have been together for a while and are pretty swamped with their own projects as well as the critiques of others already in the group. Being a newbie, I understand their hesitancy at taking on one more person in the group, especially with not much knowledge of said writer's abilities, etc.

So now I ask you, what kind of writing groups do you participate in? What are the best ways to find crit groups? Any suggestions for a newbie are welcome!

Monday, March 23, 2009

More . . . Revisions and Readings

Over the weekend I received my first round of feedback on my current project. Verdict: Good, but need more. Here's a paraphrased version of the conversation.

Me: More what?
Reader1: I don't know.
Me: More plot, more character... (a level of asking the right questions is always necessary with this person)
Reader1: Yeah. More.

I'm thinking I need a little more direction here. Mind you, I appreciate all the feedback I receive from this specific reader, but she and I both know she's not the most verbiose when it comes to criticism. I have to drag it out of her sometimes.

I've also definitely been taking every opportunity I can to get snippets of my manuscript out there for 3rd party critique. I've been working on incorporating all the feedback I've received on both the manuscript sections and my draft queries into the final products. I'm currently still in revision stages (yet again). I am working with a self-imposed deadline, so hopefully I can meet it.

On a separate note, S asked for a trip to the bookstore yesterday. And he knows what those trips can lead to, but he needed to pick up a photography book. So you know what that meant for me. . . Yay! New reading material. I was debating between The Hunger Games and The Forest of Hands and Teeth. I have heard great things about both books and even though I'm not exactly into fantasy or horror, I have been thoroughly intrigued by both based on these reviews. Inevitably, TFOHAT won out. I mean, with a title like that, you can't help but pique people's interest, right?

P.S. Also stumbled across some clearance notebooks. I don't write whole manuscripts by hand, but I do like to have a notebook with me at all times to jot down ideas, thoughts, observations or just draw out images in my head that could turn into something. You know, notebooks that I just have around to, well, write in. It's a bonus when they're cute too!

Monday, March 16, 2009

Too Many People

We had family come into town over the weekend. I met people who were in my family I have never even heard mention of before this past weekend. Had cousins coming out my ears! But *sigh* everyone's a-gone home now. Great visit, but nice for everything to be quiet again.

Received some third-party critique last week, just before the family arrived, and didn't have a chance to share. The resounding feedback: too many people. Kind of funny that was the feedback that came back seeing as it was a whole weekend of too many people. But I digress.

My first page alone had six characters. I hadn't thought much of this, as I live daily with a multitude of characters, in real life and in my head. But yeah, that's a lot of people inside of 300 words. (Flash to me, counting out each individual on my fingers realizing that is WAY too many people.) An easy fix, or so I thought. I have now gone through the entire manuscript now finding all sorts of characters that perhaps I don't need. My problem here is that I feel so attached to these "people" I feel guilty getting rid of them. I've lived so long with all these guys on the periphery of my imaginary world, it feels a little empty without them.

Then I realized I've lived an entire life not knowing a whole branch of my family tree. Isn't that the same thing? Sort of? Getting rid of a few characters from the book will not lessen the population of "my world." If you've never met them, that doesn't mean they don't exist, right? So I decided that's okay. You can just meet them later. You know, in a couple decades or something.

Tuesday, March 3, 2009

Great Deals

The weather over the weekend was much better than I expected. We even took the kids out, had family Costco day and got some errands done. It was good times. And can I just say, I LOVE that Costco carries the baby's formula in the gigantor containers? Much more cost effective. Plus, you can't beat the $1.50 hot dog and soda for lunch. Feed the whole family for under $5! Great deal in this economy.

Speaking of great deals in this economy: free critiques. I posted the link to my chapter ending and though I didn't get as many critiques as I would have liked, the ones I did get were great. Some really positive feedback (which always makes you feel better when you put yourself out there) and some great catches I didn't even notice in my self editing. I've been working through the edits based on the feedback and feel a lot better about my manuscript as a whole.

Thanks to everyone who provided me with feedback!

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Disclaimer

My third manuscript has been completed for a little while now. I let it sit and stew for a while before going back to do my edits and am working through that right now, but as such, I've also done a couple drafts of my query. I've had a few people read through my query, mostly just to get some general "would you read this if you didn't know me" feedback. My husband has said that isn't really a fair statement to add to my favor-asking because these people can't help taking into account that they know me. But still.

Overall, I received some great feedback and I've made some edits to my query and have since moved into the letting it stew for a few days period before I go back to edit some more. Before I do that, though, I had to share the reply to my query from one reader who shall remain nameless. I actually received 2 versions of the disclaimer, as I couldn't read the first one right away and reader decided that they needed to go back and "edit" their reply to me before sending it to me again as there were grammatical errors. Regardless, if you know who reader-who-shall-remain-nameless is, you will probably laugh as hard as I did. If not, well, it's still pretty funny.

So here I present reader-who-shall-remain-nameless's disclaimer version 2.0:

although i am not a writer nor read an absurd amount of books...in fact I'd say very little (2-3 books a year is about right), the options expressed are not in any way made through years of study, but rather from personal experiences and being an editor for a biweekly health article published at the U. I'm a biology major and all i have are experience points (which mean nothing). however, below are my thoughts on your query and I hope they help in provoking though. i did use "i think..." a lot and i'm well aware of my poor grammar, just so you know this is coming from a credential-less person. So please take this with with a grain of salt and let me know if i'm completely out-of-line or wrong. =) as i can give it, i can also take it (talking about criticism...not to be misunderstood as a statement of my sexuality...lol jk!).

Tuesday, July 8, 2008

Next Step

So my first manuscript is on its editing adventure... hopefully I won't get ripped to shreds, but we'll see. Meanwhile.. I have already written about 250 pages for the second manuscript in the series... mind you I didn't intend for this to be a series, but I couldn't help falling a little in love with my main characters. The voices in my head keep telling me more little secrets that just make me want to keep going. So we'll see how far this goes.... Secondly... I have started another project that I am very excited for... maybe I'll say more on this later... but for now that's my update.